Thursday, May 24, 2007

Quotes About the Detriments of Schooling
Collected by Laurie A. Couture, M.Ed, LMHC

"When we grew up and went to school, there were certain teachers who would hurt the children any way they could, by pouring their derision upon anything we did, and exposing every weakness, however carefully hidden by the kids... We don’t need no education; we don’t need no thought control; no dark sarcasms in the classroom; Teachers, leave those kids alone! Hey! Teacher! Leave us kids alone! All in all its just another brick in the wall...All in all you’re just another brick in the wall." -Pink Floyd (The Happiest Days of Our Lives and Another Brick In the Wall, 1979)

"Comparing me to those who are conventionally schooled is like comparing the freedoms of a wild stallion to those of cattle in a feedlot." -Colin Roch, 12 year old Homeschooler

"School is a prison, and I can’t afford the bail." -12 year old boy, middle school student

"Everybody in my class thought [my] comic books were really funny, except for one person - my teacher! I remember one teacher who used to rip up my books and tell me I'd better start taking life more seriously, because I couldn't spend the rest of my days making silly books. Fortunately, I wasn't a very good listener... One day my principal took me out of class and said to me, ‘I know you think you’re special because you can draw, but let me tell you something: artists are a dime-a-dozen. You will never make a living as an artist!’ Those words haunted me for many years. How delightful it was to prove him wrong!" -Dav Pilkey (author and artist of children’s books)

"I see public school as a burning building, and I'm going to save every child I can." - John Holt

"The truth is that schools don’t really teach anything except how to obey orders." -John Taylor Gatto

"The most important piece of technology in any classroom is the second hand of a clock. The purpose is to teach millions of students the identical prayer: Please God, make it move faster." -Derrick Jensen

"The first abuse of human rights implicit in mass coercive schooling is detention without having broken the law. In a democracy, it is an abuse of human rights to do this. Yet children are detained for 15,000 hours of their young lives in a day detention centre called school. Their only offence appears to be that they are young." -Roland Meighan

"Most children’s early experiences are undemocratic. Their human rights, including free speech, are ignored... Children do not need to be taught about oppression; they are oppressed. They do not need to be taught about human rights abuses; their human rights are trampled on every day they are in school." -Wendy Priesnitz

"School days, I believe, are the unhappiest in the whole span of human existence." -H.L. Mencken

"Education makes one fundamental mistake. It exists... Education as it has come to be practiced in our society is the destruction of the child. Born into curiosity and driven by the innate need to learn, children are herded into prison like institutions, forced through threats to unnaturally sit in hard chairs and memorize the most preposterous bits of disconnected information. They are coerced through punishment and reward to perform on tests, behave according to arbitrary rules, and not communicate with eachother... This truly bizarre situation is not only failing to produce creative individuals; it is sinking into the abyss of its own violence." -Steven Harrison

"Do not be surprised if the school seems more intent on shielding an abusive, incompetent teacher than in protecting children who are under the control of that teacher." -Jordan Riak

"In all these years I have seen numerous examples of the abuse of students in the name of discipline. There are too many cases where students are victims of dangerous and toxic but legally sanctioned, routinely used, and pedagogically promoted disciplinary practices." -Irwin A. Hyman

"We pay a heavy price for confining young people to schoolrooms... The kids I see... don’t like themselves very much. I’m not surprised. In schoolrooms people are useless... Useless people seldom like themselves very much. The children we capture sense the time they are losing is precious time, time that will never return. They dislike themselves for not knowing how to save their lives and turn time to real use." -John Taylor Gatto

"Working on the kindergarten and first-grade programs, I observed something that I thought was truly remarkable. In these grades, children spend most of their time learning things that no one growing up in our culture could possibly avoid learning. For example, they learn the names of the primary colors. Wow, just imagine missing school on the day when they were learning blue. You'd spend the rest of your life wondering what color the sky is." -Daniel Quinn

"My grandmother wanted me to have an education, so she kept me out of school." -Margaret Mead

"The tyranny I've seen with my own eyes (with a career in teaching and teaching teachers) would fill a book. Martinets of the classroom terrorize roomfuls of elementary school children by paralyzing them with fear. I have seen this so many times it keeps me awake at night. The teaching profession attracts cowardly and petty tyrants who get off by dominating little boys and girls. That's one of the reasons the school system is not reformable in any humanist sense. The System must be abolished in its present form. Wiped out. Schools need to be (1) not compulsory; (2) transformed or upgraded to the best library systems and made into learning centers where community people of all ages are invited to learn on their own terms at every stage of their lives, from infancy to dotage. It's human-centered, where one can use the toilet whenever the body requires it." -Norm Lee

"It could easily be argued that when education goes wrong in a democratic society, little else goes right." -Jordan Riak

"Our form of schooling creates an abundance of social pathologies and contradicts the way children actually learn- sacrificing human potential to an obsession with hierarchy, order, routine, surveillance, and the creation of lifelong dependence on "expert" authority." -John Taylor Gatto

"...The whole idea of children sitting motionless at desks listening to the same material being presented at the same rate was appalling... I began to see first grade as a violent shock to the healthy human organism" -George Leonard

"Play is the work of children." -Bob Keeshan "Captain Kangaroo"

"In school, the trap of dependency on others opens with "good students" waiting for teachers to tell them what to do. Learning to follow instruction is an important objective of school training. "Experts" call all the shots and make all the decisions, including about such basic human rights as when it is appropriate to go to the bathroom and when its ok to talk..." -Wendy Priesnitz

"The world is full of jobs that hold no intrinsic interest or pleasure. We seem to be adapting our schools to this dullness in life. By compelling our students’ attention to subjects which hold no interest for them, we, in effect, condition them for jobs they will not enjoy." -A. S. Neill

"What a vast perversion of the natural relationships of children and adults has been worked by our bureaucratized system of public education!... The world as it exists is what the young are hungry for." -George Dennison

"The difference between the real child and the child in the chair at school was immense in all cases. It was the difference, specifically, between somebody artificial and somebody real." -Jonathan Kozol

"Almost every child, on the first day he sets foot in a school building, is smarter, more curious, less afraid of what he doesn’t know, better at finding and figuring things out, more confident, resourceful, persistent,, and independent, than he will ever again be in his schooling, or, unless he is very unusual and lucky, for the rest of his life." -John Holt

"All the time you are in school, you learn through experience how to live in a dictatorship. In school you shut your notebook when the bell rings. You do not speak unless granted permission. You are guilty until proven innocent, and who will prove you innocent? You are told what to do, think, and say for six hours a day. If your teacher says sit up and pay attention, you had better stiffen your spine and try to get Bobby or Sally or the idea of Spring or the play you’re writing off your mind. The most constant and thorough thing students in school experience- and learn- is the antithesis of democracy." -Grace Llewellyn

"Learning is like breathing. It is a natural, human activity: it is part of being alive... Our ability to learn, like our ability to breathe, does not need to be improved or tampered with. It is utter nonsense, not to mention deeply insulting, to say that people need to be taught how to learn or how to think. We are born knowing these things. All that is needed is an interesting, accessible, intelligible world, and a chance to play a meaningful part in it." -Aaron Falbel

"It is a fact nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction have not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry; for this delicate little plant, aside from stimulation, stands mainly in need of freedom; without this it goes to wrack and ruin without fail." -Albert Einstein

"School takes our children away from any possibility of an active role in community life..." -John Taylor Gatto

"I try never to let my schooling get in the way of my education." -Mark Twain

"The idea of shipping our children off to a warehouse where they are educated by strangers from a curriculum designed by politicians and academics theorists is so strange and disconnected from the reality of a child that we have to wonder how this could come to be the fact in our society. Why would we want our children treated like this?" -Steven Harrison

"The aim of totalitarian education has never been to instill conviction but to destroy the capacity to form any." -Hannah Arendt

"By stars and red checks, smiles and frowns, prizes, honors, and disgraces, I teach kids to surrender their will to the predestined chain of command. Rights may be granted or withheld by any authority without appeal, because rights do not exist inside a school-- not even the right of free speech... As a schoolteacher, I intervene in many personal decisions, issuing a pass for those I deem legitimate and initiating a disciplinary confrontation for behavior that threatens my control. Individuality is constantly trying to assert itself among children and teenagers, so my judgments come thick and fast... rights in such matters cannot be recognized by schoolteachers, only privileges that can be withdrawn...." -John Taylor Gatto

"In the North American system men and women are subjected from childhood to an inexorable process... A person imprisoned by these schemes is like a plant in a flowerpot too small for it. He cannot grow or mature. This sort of conspiracy cannot help but provoke violent individual rebellions." -Octavio Paz

"Today’s schools have too little to do with learning and too much to do with control, indoctrination, and destruction of the human spirit." -Steven Harrison

"The incidence of educator-induced violence far exceeds that of offenses committed by students. Yet it is little studied, mostly ignored, and in some settings greatly encouraged." -Irwin A. Hyman

"A vampire network like a school, which tears off huge chunks of time and energy needed for building community and family-- and always asks for more-- needs to have a stake driven through its heart and be nailed to its coffin. The feeding frenzy of formal schooling has already wounded us seriously in our ability to form families and communities, by bleeding away time we need with our children and our children need with us. That’s why I say we need less school, not more." -John Taylor Gatto

"Why do people take or keep their children out of school? Mostly for three reasons: they think that raising their children is their business not the government’s; they enjoy being with their children and watching and helping them learn, and don’t want to give that up to others; they want to keep them from being hurt, mentally, physically, and spiritually." -John Holt

"Can true learning take place where students are forced, not just in attendance, but in the restriction of movement, mind, and spirit that takes place in a school?" -Steven Harrison

"I hated school so intensely. It interfered with my freedom. I avoided the discipline by an elaborate technique of being absent-minded during classes." -Sigrid Undset (1928 Nobel Prize in Literature)

"There are other abuses of human rights to be found in 'education'. One is ageism or age-apartheid...The expectation that spending this time in the company of equally immature persons will somehow lead to maturity is laughable. It actually leads to the tyranny of the peer group where behaviour, tastes in clothes, in drugs, in attitudes to other generations are defined by the immature for the immature." -Roland Meighan

"One had to cram all this stuff into one’s mind for the examination, whether one liked it or not. This coercion had such a deterring effect [upon me] that, after I had passed the final examination, I found the consideration of any scientific problems distasteful to me for an entire year." -Albert Einstein

"Even when most people still supported the schools in principle, hundreds of parents...were telling or writing me that most of their worst anxiety dreams were still school dreams, or that every time they went into their children’s school, for whatever reason, they could feel their insides tighten up and their hands begin to sweat." -John Holt

"A society that is free cannot educate its children in anything less than freedom. It is unclear why our society, educated by force now for more than a century, accepts more and more limitations on its own freedom and expression?" -Steven Harrison

"One test of the correctness of educational procedure is the happiness of the child." -Maria Montessori

"Teachers want to be little gods protected by dignity. They fear that if they act human, their authority would vanish and their classrooms will become bedlams. They fear to abolish fear." -A.S. Neill

"We only need rules to protect others. We do not need rules to protect people from themselves... In a Quality school, people are more important than rules." -William Glasser

"Compulsory education, besides being dramatically infringing on the individual’s rights,... forces schools to warehouse students who have no interest in being in school." -Steven Harrison
"...The force-feeding process [of schooling] is so relentless that many students gag on it. They tune out or leave school, and in some cases, become permanently soured on learning." -Wendy Priesnitz

"Schools are physically injurious-- for the body, which at this early age is inseparable from the soul." -Leo Tolstoy

"It was no doubt noticed that, when given a choice, most children prefer not to do school work.... Most children don't like textbooks, workbooks, quizzes, rote memorization, subject schedules, and lengthy periods of physical inactivity. One can discover this - even with polite and cooperative children - by asking them if they would like to add more time to their daily [school] schedule. I feel certain that most will decline the offer." -Earl Stevens

"All living creatures are always motivated by the basic needs of their species. But every living creature, including students, is not necessarily motivated to do what you, I, or anyone else thinks they ought to do. There is certainly no basic need to do schoolwork." -William Glasser

"What happens to learners in this worksheet wasteland? The truth is that most of them learn to comply and remain passive and may outwardly appear to be very successful students. Other children, unable to go along with such stale fare as they’re given daily in the classroom, begin slipping in their achievement but are able to keep up appearances...Finally there is a group of children totally unable to keep up the charade, mostly because their own unique ways of learning clash so severely with the narrow way that schools go about educating them. This group has earned a couple of unjust labels in recent years: learning disabled (LD) and attention deficit hyperactivity disordered (ADHD)." -Thomas Armstrong

"I am beginning to suspect all elaborate and special systems of education. They seem to me to be built upon the supposition that every child is a kind of idiot who must be taught to think. Whereas, if the child is left to himself, he will think more and better... Let him go and come freely, let him touch real things and combine his impressions for himself, instead of sitting indoors at a little round table, while a sweet-voiced teacher suggests that he build a stone wall with his wooden blocks, or make a rainbow out of strips of coloured paper, or plant straw trees in bead flower-pots. Such teaching fills the mind with artificial associations that must be got rid of, before the child can develop independent ideas out of actual experience." -Anne Sullivan
"The root ideas of a democratic education are as simple as they are radical: children should be accorded the same human rights and freedoms as adults; they should be granted responsibility for the conduct of their affairs; and they should be full participants in the life of their community. Democratic schools provide an environment where children can live their formative years in exactly the same manner as they will live out their mature years--as free citizens of a society devoted to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." -Daniel Greenberg

"Young people are capable of deciding what is important or necessary, and once they have decided, they are capable of working much harder than we imagine. Schools, after failing to give children the chance to decide what is important to them and to understand the relationship between their chosen goal and specific tasks, then conclude that children are lazy, no good, unmotivated." -Susannah Sheffer

"Unfortunately, most schools systematically eradicate the very skills that creators need. They reward success and punish failure, stifling experimentation and creativity. They teach children to perform meaningless tasks to please arbitrary authorities at the expense of their own thoughts, feelings, and purposes. You succeed at what you’re told to do in school, or you’re regarded as a failure. Any project or purpose you may dream up on your own is irrelevant." -Grace Llewellyn and Amy Silver

"Expect to be misunderstood; expect to be bored by much of what comes your way; expect to be ignored, to have your needs go unmet, to have to adjust to the world- don’t expect it to adjust to you... Schools teach these lessons exceedingly well, with great power... Schools have taught [children] to associate learning with this painful form of misunderstanding and with a frustrated boredom that ought to be the exceptio n to their education experience, not the rule." -David Guterson

"I’m continually amazed and horrified at how seemingly bright, intelligent parents do this incredible job at home with their little ones, so careful about their care providers and diet and media exposure, and then just hand them over to the system at five years old... And the justifications are equally amazing. I liken it to the phenomenon... of parents who deliver their children to the hands of their abuser."-Anonymous, (as quoted in Walking on Water by Derrick Jensen)

"This morning I went with a friend to take her son to school and when we were walking back out she said she’d seen a lot of mothers crying last week dropping their children off to their first year of school... ‘Why do all of those mothers cry?’ She didn’t answer. She knows, I think, it’s because they’re all overriding every instinct they have for their child’s well-being." ." -Anonymous, (as quoted in Walking on Water by Derrick Jensen)

"Children waiting for the day they feel good, Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday, made to feel the way that every child should. Sit and listen, sit and listen, went to school and I was very nervous, no one knew me, no one knew me. Hello teacher, tell me what's my lesson. Look right through me, look right through me." -Tears for Fears (Mad World)

"Imagine a fairy tale country that has a government based on freedom, democracy and basic human rights for all. Now, imagine that to prepare that country’s children for the rights and responsibilities of living in and contributing to the free, democratic society, the government institutes a strange practice: Beginning at the age of five, children in the country are confined for 13 years as hostages to a totalitarian institution run as a dictatorship. In that institution, children’s movement and bodily functions are controlled and regimented... Children have no right to question the validity of the curriculum, no right to critical thinking in deviance to the teacher’s agenda, no right to dispute or influence procedures for maintaining order and guidance... Children are taught that the democracy exists, but are not allowed to take part in it. At the age of 18, children in that country are released. They are expected to be ready to function in society, advanced education and careers as self-motivating, free-thinking, innovative and assertive individuals. Now imagine that this fairy tale is not a fairy tale, but the very real state of the American Educational Institution for the past hundred years." -Laurie A. Couture

"One of the first things I noticed when I walked into the [junior high class]room where my workshops were to be held was a bright red bumper sticker stuck to the front of the teacher’s desk: "This is not Burger King, and you can’t have it your way." Signs are posted all over the walls... telling students that if they misbehave they’ll be sent to the principal’s office. One orders, in all caps, that STUDENTS MUST NEVER SPEAK WITHOUT RAISING THEIR HANDS AND BEING GIVEN PERMISSION BY THE TEACHER. Although it was a math classroom, it was clear that the real point was, as always, submission to authority. I don’t know how I survived it. I don’t know how any children survive it. I guess the truth is that in a very real sense many don’t. And that is the point." -Derrick Jensen Homework

"We should question whether homework may not represent an intrusion by the state into our private lives. We would hardly stand for a government mandate that we spend an hour each night on citizenship training; the very though evokes Big Brother. But in essence, that is exactly what the homework ritual is. The school, as an instrument of the state, has invaded our family time with its agenda." -Etta Kralovec and John Buell

"I assign a type of extended schooling called "homework", so that the effect of surveillance... travels into private households, where students might otherwise use free time to learn something unauthorized from a father or mother, by exploration or by apprenticing to some wise person in the neighborhood." -John Taylor Gatto

"It’s time for us to ask ourselves why we seem to regard homework as an ugly fact of nature, like the weather or a cold we must endure. Why are we so willing to put up with the imposition of homework on our family lives when we all feel so frustrated by the practice?" -Etta Kralovec and John Buell

"‘Suzie did not have time to finish her math in school today, so I have sent it home with her to finish; please give her time to do it.’ -Mrs. Teacher. ‘We did, but that did not give her time to do all her household chores, so we have sent some laundry to school with her to fold; please give her time to do it.’ -Mrs. Mom." -Rick Garlikov

"I finally had enough of the homework interfering in my time with my family, and decided to give them a taste of their own medicine. I walked into each of my children’s classes this morning and told their teachers that I needed to take my children home for a little homework. I told them, ‘It won’t take very long. I just need to reinforce our home values’". -Jane, from "What Happened to Recess and Why are Our Children Struggling in Kindergarten? by Susan Ohanian

"Jane said that her son’s teacher gives homework on weekends. When Jane said she’d contact the teacher at home with some questions, the teacher answered, "I’d prefer you wait until Monday- I’m off on weekends." Jane replied, "So is my son. We do not do homework on weekends at our house."" -Susan Ohanian The Foundations on Which School Was Built

"Ninety-nine [students] out of a hundred are automata, careful to walk in prescribed paths, careful to follow the prescribed custom. This is not an accident but the result of substantial education, which, scientifically defined, is the subsumption of the individual." -William Torrey Harris (U.S. Commissioner of Education 1889-1906)

"The great purpose of school can be better realized in dark, airless, ugly places... It is to master the physical self, to transcend the beauty of nature. School should develop the power to withdraw from the external world" -William Torrey Harris (U.S. Commissioner of Education 1889-1906)
Detrimental Schooling:How Traditional Education Harms Children & Society
© 2003 by Laurie A. Couture, M.Ed, LMHC

"When we grew up and went to school, there were certain teachers who would hurt the children any waythey could, by pouring their derision upon anything we did,and exposing every weakness, however carefully hidden by the kids...We don’t need no education; we don’t need no thought control; no dark sarcasms in the classroom; Teachers, leave those kids alone! Hey! Teacher! Leave us kids alone! All in all its just another brick in the wall...All in all you’re just another brick in the wall."The Happiest Days of Our Lives and Another Brick In the Wall by Pink Floyd, 1979

Imagine a fairy tale country that has a government based on freedom, democracy and basic human rights for all. Now, imagine that to prepare that country’s children for the rights and responsibilities of living in and contributing to the free, democratic society, the government institutes a strange practice:
Beginning at the age of five, children in the country are confined for 13 years as hostages to a totalitarian institution run as a dictatorship. In that institution, children’s movement and bodily functions are controlled and regimented. Children cannot get out of seats or out of rooms without permission. Calls to parents are forbidden except in emergencies. Children have no right to question the validity of the curriculum, no right to critical thinking in deviance to the teacher’s agenda, no right to dispute or influence procedures for maintaining order and guidance. Children have no right to a curriculum based on independent study, or to have honored their own learning styles and educational needs and goals. The children can only go out and get exercise for 10-20 minutes once or twice per day, but that stops totally around the age of 10. Children are taught that the democracy exists, but are not allowed to take part in it. At the age of 18, children in that country are released. They are expected to be ready to function in society, advanced education and careers as self-motivating, free-thinking, innovative and assertive individuals. Now imagine that this fairy tale is not a fairy tale, but the very real state of the American Educational Institution for the past hundred years.

Why our current Educational Institution is detrimental to children:

Its structure, demands and curriculum are not child-centered or in line with developmental or learning needs
It regiments children's basic physiological needs and fails to allow children to respond to their own needs at times unprescribed by the teacher
The physical body is denied not only liquids, snacks and elimination, but exercise and rest (one or two "recesses" per day end around age 10)
Half of the states in the USA still permit teachers to assault children with paddles
It does not take into consideration that there are seven different learning styles
It provides no time for solitude, small child-led group meetings and independent study
It does not allow children to direct their own learning based on talents, interests and abilities
It fails to function as a democracy to prepare children to function in a democratic society
It is an institution based on control, order and punishment for non-compliance
Mistakes are not viewed as learning experiences, but as failures or infractions
Children’s effort and performance is graded according to the subjective opinions of a teacher
Grades are permanent, undisputable and are used to divide and "track" children according to performance
It labels children who cannot conform as "learning disabled" or "behavioral problems"
It isolates children from their families
It isolates children from the community
Children are forced to take busy work home after being confined for seven hours in school
Homework further isolates children from family time, play time, social time and time for pursuing one’s own interests
Children’s knowledge is assumed by using standardized tests designed to cater to those who excel at structured, pressured, recall of isolated facts, rather than dialoging or expressing knowledge in a variety of ways
It isolates children from taking part in contributing their ideas and talents to society
Learning is considered to be about "getting the right answer" rather than about the process of how to ask questions and where to find answers
Finding answers from peers or parents is called "cheating"
It is responsible for 1000’s of children being prescribed stimulant drugs for their exuberance, boredom or due to the teacher’s inability to provide a stimulating learning environment
It isolates children from interacting with people of various age groups
It creates a climate for children to isolate themselves into exclusive groups in order to establish a sense of power and territory in a hostage-like system (similar to prisons)
Its insensitive, control-based practices offer little opportunity for children’s voices to be expressed, leading to rage, rebellion and revenge
It is an outdated institution based on the work ethic of the early 1900’s
It has refused to modernize to meet the creative and intellectual needs and demands of a modern society

The historical origins of forced mass schooling and our modern schools

John Taylor Gatto (1996), educator and strong supporter of home schooling, has written extensively about the origins of our current educational institution in America. Schooling did not exist as long as many people assume; In 1650 New England colonies, influenced by Plato’s Republic, attempted to create such a compulsory institution, to no avail. In the early 1800’s, a group of influential secret society ideologists were influenced by the Socialist Prussian system of forced mass-education. Prussians instituted a subordination system to mass-educate the population’s children with the goal of producing an obedient group of people to conform to the Prussian goals of like-minded thinking and servitude to the government, army and to the mines. Gatto writes that "the underlying premise of Prussian schooling is that the government is the true parent of children" (p.44). In 1852, this secret society, known as "The Order of the Star Spangled Banner", was successful in passing legislation for forced mass schooling in Massachusetts. Gatto writes that within the next 50 years, every state followed suit, "ending schools of choice and ceding the field to a new governmental monopoly" (p. 43).Horace Mann, John Dewey and Kindergarten founder, Friedrich Froebel, were all vocal in supporting an institution that would control and gernericize education to prevent people from becoming from too knowledgeable and powerful. Gatto writes that in the early days of education reading was discouraged. Gatto adds that Dewey believed that with self-directed education, people become "dangerous because they become privately empowered, they know too much, and know how to find out what they don’t know by themselves without consulting experts" (p. 44).

On what principles was traditional schooling founded?
Schooling was influenced by the idea that self-directed education created dangerous, free-thinking, over-educated people
Schooling was influenced by the idea that children are helpless, blank slates that would never learn on their own if left to self educate
Schooling was influenced by the idea that parents cannot provide an adequate education for their own children
Schooling was influenced by the idea that only "experts" can impart knowledge and adequate education
Schooling was influenced by a governmental idea that isolating children from their parents would limit free thinking, ensuring a more malleable and willing labor force
Schooling was influenced by the work ethic of the 1800’s which valued passive obedience to an authority
Schooling was based on preparing children for lives of servitude to hard labor in factories, mills and army
Schooling was influenced by the idea that education is what happens when an authority feeds facts to a passive recipient
School student management was influenced by harsh, punitive, religious views of children as bad and in need of "reform", regimentation and control
School student management was influenced by the scant knowledge of child development of the times
Student management was influenced by adults showing little regard for the physical and emotional needs of children

Why traditional schooling is detrimental to society
School teachers love children who are quiet, obedient, passive recipients of the information that they present. Compliant children rarely argue or question the ideas of the teacher. On the contrary, spirited, exuberant children who buck the system are first punished into compliance, or next, are referred for testing to earn a label of "learning disabled", "special needs", or "behaviorally disordered". A remedy of stimulant medication to slow down or focus the bored, understimulated or energetic, passionate child often accompanies these testing results. Some of these children simply learn in a different manner than is being taught, or at a slower pace. Some are exceptionally bright, creative, gifted or talented. Many are abuse and neglect victims acting out their rage in school. Although obedient children are easy for parents and teachers to control and be around, these children often have difficulty with taking initiative, leadership, self-motivation, self-education, assertiveness, free-thinking, self-expression, trust in their own abilities and bringing innovative ideas to fruition. In our modern, technologically advanced society, the very qualities that are required for many of the successful careers of today are the very qualities that traditional schools subdue and squelch.

Reference Gatto, J.T. (1996) The Public School Nightmare: Why Fix A System Designed to Destroy Individual Thought? Chapter 7 in Deschooling Our Lives (Hern, M.): New Society Publishers.


Coach Dave Daubenmire
May 24, 2007

Amoral---having no moral standards, restraints, or principles; unaware of or indifferent to questions of right or wrong:

Shallow. That is the best way to describe those who are being paraded before us as legitimate contenders for election to the highest office in the land. Men without chests is what C. S. Lewis coined them.

Has that ever been more apparent than what the two major parties present to us today? Oh, how I long for a man who will “call them as he sees them.”

But, unfortunately, the modern political philosophy of the day is that the safest position to take in politics is “no position,” or as we have seen in the latest “debates,” both positions! Today’s candidates have become masters of fence riding and double-speak. Sadly, most of the electorate, dumbed-down by government education and indoctrinated with moral relativism, is unable to fight through the fog.

As I listened to Rudy Guilani waffle-on about how he is “personally” against abortion but for a woman’s “right” to make the “difficult” choice it became obvious to me that Truth has fallen in the streets. Murder is now called choice. A-merica is becoming a-moral.
Too bad Rudy is not worried about terrorism in the womb. There will be terrorism in the world as long as we permit terrorism in the womb.

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Psalms 94: 16-17 "Who will rise up for Me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity" "Unless the Lord had been my help, my soul had almost dwelt in silence."

No wonder America is wavering. Our leaders no longer believe in right and wrong.
Consider where this moral double-mindedness has taken us.
Pornography is protected speech, but prayer is not.
A 16 year can have an abortion but she can’t smoke a cigarette.
Seat belts are mandatory, citizenship is not.
Homosexuality is love, opposition to it is hate.
We worship Mother Earth and deny Father God.
Hip-hop vulgarity floods the school’s hallway while Gospel expression is censored.

But the fix is in. After Ron Paul raised a few eyebrows in the “debates,” the forces were marshaled against him to make sure that no “out-of-the-mainstream” positions were permitted on the stage. The pre-selected 1st tier of candidates were the only ones to be taken seriously. Congressman Paul and his ilk were not welcome in the “big tent” Republican debates. Make your choice, Rudy, McCain, or Romney. Any other candidate is a distraction because no one else is capable of winning.

And Christians are eating it up. We have been told to ignore the Republican Party’s amoral positions in an attempt to be more “inclusive.” Eeny, Meeny, and Miny, are your choices. Forget Mo, because he just can’t win.
So, I listened closely to what Eeny, Meeny, and Miney said last week. They’re great at double-speak. No matter which position you hold, they share it. What a deal! Finally a candidate that thinks like me!

But Rudy is the master. As I said before, he is “personally” against abortion, but for a woman’s right to “choose.” He would like to see all abortions “end” but doesn’t think the government should intervene in a woman’s right to “reproductive choice.” He likes Judges Scalia and Alito, but agrees with Judge Ginsburg.
So the candidates are able to get away with a position that supports the killing of innocent children in the safety of a mother’s womb, even though he/she is “personally” against abortion. What a crock. Allow me to extrapolate how vacuous this position is.
Since a candidate “supports” a position that he/she is “personally” opposed to, wouldn’t it be safe to assume that he/she applies the same rationale to other issues? Would you seriously consider a candidate who took the following positions?

I am personally opposed to slavery, but I am for a slave-owners right to choose.
I personally oppose rape, but I am for a rapist’s right to personal choice.
I personally oppose murder, but I am for a murderer’s right to do it.
I personally oppose lynching, but I am for a white man’s justice.
I am personally opposed to incest, but I am for father’s rights.
I personally oppose suicide bombings, but who am I to tell another how he can express his faith?
I personally oppose border jumping, but I am for a man’s right to choose what is best for his family.
I am personally opposed to…………you fill in the blank.

Both positions is no position.

Judges 21:25 “In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.”
We have reached a water-shed moment in American history. Double-mindedness will be our undoing. Compartmentalized morality will no longer work. Amorality is no morality.
I Kings 18:21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.
Obviously, Almighty God is Pro-Choice. But He instructs us on what to choose.
Deuteronomy 30:20 " . . . I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore, choose life, that both you and your children shall live. . ."

How have we reached the point where amoral men are chosen as leaders? Where personal morality can be separated from public morality? Where sin has become a government-protected right? And those who speak the truth are called radicals or negative.
Our Christian leadership encourages their flock to support the “lesser of two evils?” What Scripture verse is that, the supporting of any evil?

"Let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers just men who will rule in the fear of God." Exodus 18:21…
If the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office, they will soon be corrupted . . . If our government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws.” [Noah Webster, The History of the United States (New Haven: Durrie and Peck, 1832), pp. 336-337, 49]
Stop pointing your finger at the lost and start pointing your fingers at the found.

"If there is a decay of conscience, the pulpit is responsible for it. If the public press lacks moral discernment, the pulpit is responsible for it. If the church is degenerate and worldly, the pulpit is responsible for it. If the world loses its interest in Christianity, the pulpit is responsible for it. If Satan rules in our halls of legislation, the pulpit is responsible for it. If our politics become so corrupt that the very foundations of our government are ready to fall away, the pulpit is responsible for it." --Charles Finney

If you have the courage, Read what Finney said about our Christian duty.
The salt has lost his savor and A-moral A-merica is rotting at the core.
Would Jesus tell us to vote for Eeny, Meeny, or Miney? Go ahead. Follow their lead.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
A vote for them is a vote for WOE!
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Tuesday, May 22, 2007

Scottish Sympathy

Taken from

Bono, the lead singer of the band U2, is famous throughout theentertainment industry for being more than just a little self-righteous.

At a recent U2 concert in Glasgow , Scotland, he asked the audience fortotal quiet. Then, in the silence, he started to slowly clap his hands,once every few seconds. Holding the audience in total silence, he saidinto the microphone, "Every time I clap my hands, a child in Africa dies."

A voice with a broad Scottish accent, from the front of the crowd,pierces the quiet ..............

"Well, foockin stop doin it then!"

Monday, May 21, 2007


By Dr. Laurie Roth Ph.D.

May 18, 2007

What is happening to the innocence of our children? Are we adults SO perverted and desperate for fulfilling our own sexual appetites that we can't support laws that protect our children? Are we going to stand by as we continue to push our country into an international revamp and let International child sex laws affect U.S. policy?
Our children already are facing an enormous amount of sexual dangers in our country! The United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund (UNICEF) have reported that one in five American children who use the Internet are approached by an adult stranger who wants a sexual encounter.
Other dangers lie in the whole realm of professionals redefining the basics of what abuse is even defined as!! Sam Kastensmidt wrote a great article posted at, which highlights just that. The American Psychological Association has published the "Rind Report," asking Congress to get rid of terms like "molestation" when referring to an act of sexually abusing a child. They have been lobbying for a value neutral term like "adult-child sex or "willing encounter." The Department of Education has released a study, which is enough to freak any parent out! They discovered in one survey that one out of every ten students had experienced unwanted sexual encounters by an educator!! Also that more than 4.5 million students will be subjected to sexual abuse by an employee of a school between kindergarten and 12th grade."
You would think that these stats and dangers would be enough to wake up congress, the ACLU and other groups regarding our children's safety…but no….what am I thinking? When you are selfish and perverted by nature and already look the other way regarding 50 million abortions why spend too much energy protecting the kids after they are born?
As our culture declines and morals descend into fossil exhibits we see pressures to lower the age of consent. The ACLU wants it down to age 13. Other countries continue to share their enlightenment in this area. Already we see Denmark, France, Sweden, Poland and the Czech Republic having their national age of consent at 15. Of course, even more enlightened is Hungary, Austria and Canada, with its consent age at 14. Just when you think you can't get inspired any further, Mexico, the Netherlands, Argentina, Chile and Columbia blows our mind with a consent age of 12! According to Sam Kastensmidt at, there are reports that more than 16,000 Mexican children are into prostitution! There are groups here and abroad who won't stop until there is NO sexual age of consent!!!
The scary thing to me is that we as a country are morphing more into International Law i.e. North American Union, looking at international governing bodies to make our legal decisions and literally establishing or dismantling are very moral system!
Our own Supreme Court has relied on international law to strike down a Texas anti-sodomy statue. Even Justice Ginsburg has called for the sexual age of consent to be lowered to 12 years old. The depravity and betrayal to our children and culture is NEON!!!
What we are really talking about is the blatant assault on our very standard of morality and submission to a higher standard, namely God. If we can demonize God's standards, our Christian heritage and absolute guidelines of sexual protection and expectation for our children, we can turn our culture into walking, acting out machines of perversion.


We must keep the age of consent up, turn to God and remind ourselves of real values, prosecute sex offenders who want to experiment and play with our kids and draw REAL lines in the sand, not slime in the sand!
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Thursday, May 17, 2007

Hobo Lullaby

Brings back memories.

The Price of Apathy

By Lynn Stuter
May 15, 2007
It seems everywhere we look today, corruption abounds. The cesspool of American government never gets better, only worse. Here are just some of the highlights of which the American public is generally unaware:
12 to 20,000,000 illegal aliens residing in the United States with all the resulting problems associated with the same.
The undeclared war in Iraq was a done deal in 2002.
Male and female prostitutes, and young children being used for illicit, deviant sexual activity by Senators, Representatives, and the White House; lending to corruption and blackmail above and beyond the obviously sick mind that would engage in such behavior.
Eight federal prosecutors being fired; two dying mysteriously, and two associated with those dead resigning; all having one thing in common: cases concerning Medicare/Medicaid fraud, money laundering, and illegal drugs.
The outing of a CIA operative who may have thwarted an attempt by our war-mongering president to plant WMDs in Iraq.
The prosecution of border guards and law enforcement personnel who have protected America against illegal aliens and the possibility that the drug smugglers involved have CIA connections (remember Iran/Contra?).
The unanswered questions concerning anomalies between the official story and the actual events of September 11, 2001.
The no-bid contracts for services in Iraq that have proven lucrative for the military industrial complex at the expense of the American taxpayer.
The billions of American dollars that have “gone missing” in Iraq.
The millions of barrels of Iraqi oil that have disappeared from Iraq oil fields.
The stranglehold groups such as the Council on Foreign Relations, Bildeberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Order of Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove Group, and Bretton Woods Committee have on the politicians in Washington DC and many state capitals as well.
In no particular order.
I received many responses to “An Open Letter to President Bush;" overwhelmingly what I heard was “right on.” Some also cautioned that people who openly opposed this president could end up dead which certainly makes a statement in itself. One gentlemen, tongue in cheek, admonished me for insulting hard-working prostitutes which also is a statement in itself. Another read:
I read your letter to your president. I am afraid it is too late for America. Off course the Bush legacy goes back to Prescott Bush and beyond.
You need to disband your military; you have been invading foreign countries since World War II, killing millions of innocent people all to support the USD and your control of the are the unholy Roman Empire; your elections are a farce. Apparently you have the highest percentage of your population in prison of any country. You use 25% of the planets resources and have 5% of the population. Your military budget is more than the next 20 countries combined. WHY?
It is much worse than just your President. The privately owned world banking system that enslaves humanity (with high interest rates on money created out of nothing in the form of debt) is centred around your Federal Reserve bank and the likes of Goldman Sachs etc.
You are the Pariahs of the planet...We would be better off without you. Wake up to what the rest of the world thinks of you. You were one of the leaders of freedom for mankind 200 years ago; now you are the leaders of EVIL … and you think you are a Christian country.
This individual speaks the thoughts of a growing number of people from other nations.
What is so sad about all of this is that the American people go about their daily lives with little or no knowledge that any of this is going on. Have you heard about any of the above in the mainstream (or is that lamestream) media or newspapers? Why not? Isn’t it important that the American people know about these happenings?
Well, if you want an informed public, of course it is important the people know about these happenings. But what if you don’t want an informed public? What if you are hoping against hope that you can lie to the American people repeatedly if only by omission and they will continue to believe that America is healthy, the economy is healthy, and all is well “from sea to shining sea”?
There is a large element of the American populace who really do want to believe the aforesaid. I heard from a couple of them, too. One accused me of being a liberal. These days a “liberal” is defined as anyone who doesn’t agree with the policies of the fascist in the White House. And if you don’t, you are anti-American, don’t support the troops, and love Islamic terrorists. It’s just that simple. No matter that the fascist in the White House is violating the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and existing U.S. law and deserves to be impeached and put on trial for treason. The rationale is that he was and is the “lesser of two evils.” End of rationale. I have to wonder if the men and women who have died in Iraq would agree that Bush was “the lesser of two evils”.
Another told me that I should simply trust our government!
Of the two, the second is the more dangerous. The price of freedom is truly vigilance and the price of freedom is not free. People who trust our government are quite willing to ignore the obvious. Just what politicians like, for ignorance truly is bliss. People can go about their day to day — watch mindless television on their big screen for hours on end, drink beer to their heart’s content, cheer on their favorite sports team, enjoy their fast cars, fast boats, and big houses, go on vacation, go shopping, go to the theater, be entertained — and not have to worry about what’s really going on in our country. After all, the stress of the job and keeping up with the Jones is enough without having to deal with all the rest! And to this end, mainstream media is quite willing to accommodate them.
There is no such thing as a true investigative reporter working in any major media outlet today. Investigative reporters who truly are investigative reporters are not associated with any major network, are not embedded in Iraq or Afghanistan, are not invited to press conferences at the White House, don’t draw six digit salaries, don’t have official offices in foreign lands, and generally find themselves harassed and hassled for seeking truth. Many have died because of what they know that the powers that be don’t want the American people to know.
And what of people who dare ask questions, such as,
“How did two steel framed buildings with a central core of 47 steel re-enforced concrete columns (documented), with steel lattice skins (documented), with steel re-enforced concrete joists (documented), manage to fall neatly into their footprints (documented) at near free-fall speed (documented) and with complete pulverization of the buildings (documented) following explosions at the base and further up in both buildings (documented) after being hit by two planes that did not cause fires hot enough to compromise the integrity of the infrastructure of either building (documented)?”
I heard from one of those as well, who told me he didn’t believe in all the “conspiracies.” So why is a question, resulting from documented evidence, a conspiracy? Because people who don’t believe what they are told to believe, who aren’t just going along to get along, might cause people to actually stop and think — critically and analytically. And that just would not do. Therefore they must be discredited, made to look like some whacko just trying to get attention; they must be marginalized and alienated. After all, if these questions weren’t ask by the mainstream media, they must not be relevant, right? Haven’t we been taught that the government knows best; is the “expert”? that the government will take care of us? that the government will tell us and teach us all that we need to know?
And besides, if we know something is wrong aren’t we obligated to do something about it? Isn’t it just easier to ignore the truth, vote for the “lesser of two evils”, and hope for the best while griping and complaining about the fact that those “elected” to represent us are out of touch with the people?
Standing on the steps of Constitution Hall in Philadelphia, Ben Franklin was asked what form of government we had; he replied, “A Republic if you can keep it!”

Many today suffer the illusion that the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights will protect the American people from any skullduggery committed in high places. This belief is misguided. The Constitution and Bill of Rights will ONLY protect the American people IF the American people are vigilant in protecting the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Thomas Jefferson was not wrong when he stated,
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.”

Hosea 4:6: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.”
No nation, in which the people have abrogated their responsibility in overseeing their instruments of government, has stood the test of time and tyrants. The same is true with America.
© 2007 Lynn M. Stuter - All Rights Reserved

First post

Well, I have been blogging on Yahoo 360, but decided to try this one.
They'll get better as I go along, I'm sure. :)

That's it for now, BBS